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What is the best 4k player outside of the Oppo?

Discussion in 'Playback Devices' started by Ronald Epstein, Aug 23, 2018.

  1. Robert Crawford

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    I've haven't played a video game in over 25 years. I rather watch movies.
     
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    Same here. I thought it was very odd I never got a notification from their waiting list, as I did intend to purchase an Oppo player from their final batch. I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
     
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    I'm dying to hear your thoughts of UHD on a TV vs. Projection. I have a very difficult time deciding how to watch a new release: Sacrifice size for a perfect picture, or go with the fantastic immersion of projection. As much as I love UHD, it is probably 60/40 split in favor of projection. I just really like the cinematic feel of the big screen.
     
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    Blessed are those with such dilemmas.
    Posts such as these keeps me going and inspired.
    One day...one day.
     
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    That's certainly what I've done and I couldn't be happier.
     
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  6. Ronald Epstein

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    I reached out to the owner of Oppo via email two days ago. Usually, he gets back to me immediately.

    There has been no reply. My guess is that there are no units to be had anymore.
     
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    I just wish it was a projector I was buying instead of a panel.

    The room with a panel has no sound system other than a Sonos playbase. No surround.

    The room was never set up for home theater viewing. The only reason I am even into 4k, partially at this point, is because my LG plasma finally died.

    At least I can say I have 4k capability at this point. Just wish it was a projector. Still waiting for those prices to drop. In the meantime I am hearing more about 8k on the horizon.
     
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    Well we can keep hearing about it as far as I'm concern as 4K is probably the end of the road for me. I'm not saying I won't buy a 8K display years from now, but I'm done chasing technologies as that 8K display will be replacing a display that stopped working.
     
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    Good Day Ronald. As you may know, I went with the Sony X700 for my first UHD Blu-ray player. Fair to say the jury is still out on how well it stacks up against the Oppos and Panasonics but I can say for my first 4K experience (teamed with the new Vizio P75), I was duly impressed. Grease (1978) 4K was about the best I’d ever seen it but when I screened Mamma Mia (2008) and Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (2017) 4K Blu-rays, I really got blown away. And that was with a slightly defective TV (just replaced but has to wait till I get home to install).

    Still have some tweaking to do but I’d say at this point, my Sony X700 has quite a bit of bang for the buck ($314 with the region free mods).

    I’ll be considering a second UHD player for the bedroom TV (Vizio M50 4K circa 2015) and probably will be another X700.

    Hope this proves useful.
     
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    8k is a total waste of time. Better pixels not more pixels. The only reason for the vast majority of people to adopt 4k is HDR, not resolution.
     
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    And broadcast TV hasn't really moved to 4K yet, so even thinking about 8K seems like manufacturers' overkill.
     
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    What’s the UX?

    I tried my PS4 as a Blu-ray player and it was a f’ing disaster: the “remote” is the game controller which is a terrible (complete guess what button will do what; pick it up and accidental press an analog button and the movie skips to the next chapter). And during the movie, I’m getting gamer notifications on screen about everyone playing Destiny!

    It gave me the lesson to *never* use a game console for watching content.

    How does the XB handle the UI, remote control, and external notifications?
     
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    You can get a really good HD 3D DLP from Optoma for less than $800. And if you have a good sized wall in you living room or somewhere else in your house you're off to the races, plug n Play out of the box. And for that price the entertainment value is immeasurable. Building a home theater with seats, screen, sound system from scratch is still expensive though, and I envy those with such a set up.

    I still laugh when I think back to the late 90's trying to figure out how to afford an $8K projector that was SD(junk) and about a fraction of the contrast ratio of the projectors currently.

    We have come a long way in a very short time
     
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    In my case, my Vizio 4K display doesn't do a great job upconverting 480i/p content, so I have my current Sony X-800 upconverting both DVD and BD content -- it's identical to the Vizio for BD content, but this way I can leave the player on 4K output for everything. Tone mapping may help with a lower light output panel like my Vizio, as well (not as big an issue for OLED). And the gaming aspect is a meaningless feature to many of us.

    So, maybe your comment should have been "questionably the 2nd best UHD player". :D
     
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    I don’t see 8K as being a standard format for content creation in the foreseeable future, if ever.

    The overwhelming majority of theatrical releases are still completed in 2K resolution without HDR. Most theatrical projectors are either 2K or 4K without HDR.

    It’s going to take a while for them to catch up to producing a majority of content in 4K with HDR.

    I see 8K as being useful for specialized applications like theme park attractions and giant commercial billboards but less so for moviegoing.
     
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    In addition to the Panasonic models previously mentioned, another Universal player to consider is the Cambridge Audio CXUHD.

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    Yeah, I agree that 8K in the home makes little sense. I don't see it being in my home unless it gets to a point where it's the only thing available to purchase... and we are a long way from that day.
     
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    That's why I purchased mine as soon as I heard the announcement from Oppo. I honestly didn't know whether or not it would prove to be a wise decision but now I'm seeing the dearth and feel fully gratified.
     
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    You could also sell it for a healthy profit right now, if you so desired.
     
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    I have two of the 203 models so I could really make out.;)
     

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